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	<title>Comments on: Muslim nations launch holy war against free speech</title>
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		<title>By: Julian Malakar</title>
		<link>http://biblebeltblogger.com/index.php/religion/muslim-nations-launch-holy-war-against-free-speech/comment-page-1#comment-19231</link>
		<dc:creator>Julian Malakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When any faith is built up in sands needs protectionism.   Of course, free speech is not licensed to speak freely.  There must be some kind of balancing policy to maintain harmony of these two special characters of humanity (free speech vs. faith).  Policy could be like the one found on separation of Church and State in broader sense to recognized importance of both characters in public life under UNO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When any faith is built up in sands needs protectionism.   Of course, free speech is not licensed to speak freely.  There must be some kind of balancing policy to maintain harmony of these two special characters of humanity (free speech vs. faith).  Policy could be like the one found on separation of Church and State in broader sense to recognized importance of both characters in public life under UNO.</p>
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		<title>By: José</title>
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		<dc:creator>José</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are valid arguments for putting modest limits on freedom of speech.  The fact that it might cause trouble, though, is not a good enough reason.

UK, you have lots of good company in wanting to protect the rights of religious groups to have a significant voice in the public forum.  This ain&#039;t that fight.  There&#039;s a distinction between protecting religion and underwriting it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are valid arguments for putting modest limits on freedom of speech.  The fact that it might cause trouble, though, is not a good enough reason.</p>
<p>UK, you have lots of good company in wanting to protect the rights of religious groups to have a significant voice in the public forum.  This ain&#8217;t that fight.  There&#8217;s a distinction between protecting religion and underwriting it.</p>
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		<title>By: UKLutheran</title>
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		<dc:creator>UKLutheran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know... maybe these Muslim leaders need to just start out small... pick minor instances where restricting free speech about religion seems sensible to many... like maybe getting behind this notion that school valedictorians shouldn&#039;t mention Christ, Faith, or anything &quot;controversial&quot; in their graduation addresses... 

Or behind this misguided notion that religious institutions that engage in policy advocacy should loose their tax exempt status... maybe we can all work together to assure  that no one of faith says anything significant in the public realm, and then in turn no one in the public realm ever says anything critical of religion....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know&#8230; maybe these Muslim leaders need to just start out small&#8230; pick minor instances where restricting free speech about religion seems sensible to many&#8230; like maybe getting behind this notion that school valedictorians shouldn&#8217;t mention Christ, Faith, or anything &#8220;controversial&#8221; in their graduation addresses&#8230; </p>
<p>Or behind this misguided notion that religious institutions that engage in policy advocacy should loose their tax exempt status&#8230; maybe we can all work together to assure  that no one of faith says anything significant in the public realm, and then in turn no one in the public realm ever says anything critical of religion&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: John Hamilton</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Hamilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Freedom of speech doesn&#039;t give you the right to yell &quot;Fire!&quot; in a crowded theater when there isn&#039;t one. Likewise, if you know what you say is going to get people killed, like what happened in Islamic countries after publication of the Muhammad cartoons, it would lead some to think you are abusing the freedom of speech. I don&#039;t think that was the case with the Danish cartoons, though. How would the cartoonist know a bunch of Muslims would kill each other in Pakistan over a cartoon published in Denmark? When a cartoon is published slamming the pope in say America, do a bunch of Catholics start killing each other in Italy? These Muslims need to grow up and take a chill pill.

If your religion can&#039;t take criticism, even if it is unfounded, then it is not going to be viable. At the heart of this is that these particular Muslims don&#039;t want people thinking differently than they do. I don&#039;t support defaming someone else&#039;s religious beliefs, but I do support everyone&#039;s right to disagree and let that disagreement be known. This is a really stupid idea, and if it ever gets to the U.N. General Assembly, it will only go to prove my opinion that the U.N. is nothing more (for the most part) than a bureaucratic waste of time and money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Freedom of speech doesn&#8217;t give you the right to yell &#8220;Fire!&#8221; in a crowded theater when there isn&#8217;t one. Likewise, if you know what you say is going to get people killed, like what happened in Islamic countries after publication of the Muhammad cartoons, it would lead some to think you are abusing the freedom of speech. I don&#8217;t think that was the case with the Danish cartoons, though. How would the cartoonist know a bunch of Muslims would kill each other in Pakistan over a cartoon published in Denmark? When a cartoon is published slamming the pope in say America, do a bunch of Catholics start killing each other in Italy? These Muslims need to grow up and take a chill pill.</p>
<p>If your religion can&#8217;t take criticism, even if it is unfounded, then it is not going to be viable. At the heart of this is that these particular Muslims don&#8217;t want people thinking differently than they do. I don&#8217;t support defaming someone else&#8217;s religious beliefs, but I do support everyone&#8217;s right to disagree and let that disagreement be known. This is a really stupid idea, and if it ever gets to the U.N. General Assembly, it will only go to prove my opinion that the U.N. is nothing more (for the most part) than a bureaucratic waste of time and money.</p>
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		<title>By: Niall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Niall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 00:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think what we do is declare gay people a &quot;religious symbol&quot;, then sign on with this Muslim effort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think what we do is declare gay people a &#8220;religious symbol&#8221;, then sign on with this Muslim effort.</p>
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		<title>By: Dajjal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dajjal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 00:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, Cheese, I won&#039;t agree to disagree. I stand on my God given right to live as a freeman, to create, own, use &amp; exchange property, to hold &amp; express opinions and to believe &amp; worship as I see fit or not. 

I blessed well will not yield to the OIC, Ummah al-Islamiyya, the UN or any other entity. 

So we violate Muslim&#039;s rights by offering proof of the fact that Moe was a terrorist? Fine, by God! Read Sahih Bukhari 4.52.220 and see for yourself. &quot;...made victorious by terror...&quot;. 

No! I go further! Islamic doctrines enshrined in the Qur&#039;an, exemplified in hadith &amp; codified in Shari&#039;ah violate human dignity, the right to life, the right to property, and the right to believe and practice as we see fit. 

Islam&#039;s doctrines &amp; practices are standing violations of ICCPR, ICERD &amp; CPPCG. Enforcible provisions of those international human rights covenants require the legal proscription of organizations which violate them. Islam must be outlawed!! 

We can pound the facts and push the issue to the forefront. For this purpose, the International Qur&#039;an Petition has been uttered &amp; published. It makes the essential case and prays to the World Court for injunctive relief. 

At http://www.crusadersarmory.co.cc/ you will find a link to the petition and links to its supporting evidence. You can join the crusade by signing the petition and sending it to everyone you can hope to influence, urging them to sign and forward it. 

Open Doors and ACLJ have on line petitions against the pending resolution &amp; protocol to ICERD. Sign and promote those petitions. 

A sense of the House Resolution: H.Res.763 languishes in the Foreign Relations Cmte. Exhort your Congressman to sign on as a co-sponsor and demand a vote on the resolution before the G.A. votes on Defamation of Religions. 

The time is now to rise up and disrespectfully demand the preservation of our most precious rights.  If we can not honestly and accurately name, define &amp; describe the enemy which assails us, we will be rendered defenseless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, Cheese, I won&#8217;t agree to disagree. I stand on my God given right to live as a freeman, to create, own, use &amp; exchange property, to hold &amp; express opinions and to believe &amp; worship as I see fit or not. </p>
<p>I blessed well will not yield to the OIC, Ummah al-Islamiyya, the UN or any other entity. </p>
<p>So we violate Muslim&#8217;s rights by offering proof of the fact that Moe was a terrorist? Fine, by God! Read Sahih Bukhari 4.52.220 and see for yourself. &#8220;&#8230;made victorious by terror&#8230;&#8221;. </p>
<p>No! I go further! Islamic doctrines enshrined in the Qur&#8217;an, exemplified in hadith &amp; codified in Shari&#8217;ah violate human dignity, the right to life, the right to property, and the right to believe and practice as we see fit. </p>
<p>Islam&#8217;s doctrines &amp; practices are standing violations of ICCPR, ICERD &amp; CPPCG. Enforcible provisions of those international human rights covenants require the legal proscription of organizations which violate them. Islam must be outlawed!! </p>
<p>We can pound the facts and push the issue to the forefront. For this purpose, the International Qur&#8217;an Petition has been uttered &amp; published. It makes the essential case and prays to the World Court for injunctive relief. </p>
<p>At <a href="http://www.crusadersarmory.co.cc/" rel="nofollow">http://www.crusadersarmory.co.cc/</a> you will find a link to the petition and links to its supporting evidence. You can join the crusade by signing the petition and sending it to everyone you can hope to influence, urging them to sign and forward it. </p>
<p>Open Doors and ACLJ have on line petitions against the pending resolution &amp; protocol to ICERD. Sign and promote those petitions. </p>
<p>A sense of the House Resolution: H.Res.763 languishes in the Foreign Relations Cmte. Exhort your Congressman to sign on as a co-sponsor and demand a vote on the resolution before the G.A. votes on Defamation of Religions. </p>
<p>The time is now to rise up and disrespectfully demand the preservation of our most precious rights.  If we can not honestly and accurately name, define &amp; describe the enemy which assails us, we will be rendered defenseless.</p>
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		<title>By: cheese</title>
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		<dc:creator>cheese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I&#039;ll guess we&#039;ll just have to agree to disagree on this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I&#8217;ll guess we&#8217;ll just have to agree to disagree on this one.</p>
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